Would readers take a gondola to Dodger Stadium from Union Station?
A number of hundred folks weighed in on a possible new approach to attain Dodgers video games, first proposed by then-owner Frank McCourt in 2018 and nonetheless alive, now shepherded by an environmental group that hopes to take vehicles off the streets and maintain pollution out of the air. We requested readers if they might or wouldn’t use the gondola, or in the event that they weren’t positive.
By only a few votes, “sure” acquired probably the most responses. Listed below are the areas that readers cited probably the most as elements of their selections:
Is Union Station simpler than Dodger Stadium heaps?
A standard theme amongst respondents: Is the Union Station-to-Dodger Stadium route extra handy? Does it save time? For a lot of, the reply was a convincing no. However many individuals mentioned they’d use it for quite a lot of causes.
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If I arrive on the boarding station at an inexpensive time earlier than first pitch, what assure do I’ve that I can’t be caught in line reasonably than within the stadium half-hour later? And, after the sport, the final of these followers gained’t be boarding their journey again till 60-plus minutes postgame … standing in line. And that’s simply to get again to the station.
The Stadium wants higher entry — I can afford to go to video games, in first rate seats, however I select to not as a result of the visitors is ludicrous. The stadium desperately wants a number of accesses.
And … right now’s surroundings additionally calls for higher safety. Good luck to them in resolving their dilemma.
Reply: No
Chip Ossman, Altadena
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If enhancements in complete commute time and complete value had been a internet optimistic I might undoubtedly take it. If I’ve to Uber to the Expo Line to take it to Union Station after which get on the gondola, that feels like a number of work and the prices add up. Particularly if we now have a bunch.
Reply: Undecided
Patrick Pennel, Los Angeles
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I already park blocks away from the stadium and stroll there as a result of I detest the lot a lot. It’s straightforward to get into however a nightmare after the video games are over. A gondola would make going and leaving a lot simpler and take much less time.
Reply: Sure
Joe Kornbrodt, Los Angeles
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How lengthy is the road going to be? The road for the present Union Station buses makes them impractical.
By my math and the numbers within the article (24 folks each 23 seconds), it could take virtually three hours to maneuver the ten,000 followers the article talks about. One thing doesn’t add up.
Fwiw, I’ve shared season tickets with others since 1992 and go to about 15 video games a yr.
Reply: Undecided
Wesley Monroe, Pasadena
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We want extra public transportation in Los Angeles. How enjoyable and simple. Practice to gondola to stadium. I might go see a live performance there if it had been that straightforward.
Reply: Sure
Tamra Davis, Malibu
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I might take the practice to L.A. from Ventura and never fear about visitors. I might undoubtedly come to extra video games.
Reply: Sure
Anita Guerrini, Ventura
Extra Frank McCourt?
Frank McCourt didn’t promote the Dodger Stadium parking heaps when he offered the Dodgers for a billion-dollar revenue in 2012. As a substitute, successful bidder Guggenheim Baseball Administration fashioned a three way partnership with a McCourt entity to manage the parking heaps. Although Mark Walter, the Dodgers’ chairman and controlling proprietor, mentioned McCourt can’t develop something on the property with out Guggenheim’s consent, McCourt’s identify was a trigger for concern for readers who provided their ideas.
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I drink beer earlier than moving into the stadium, my bladder couldn’t maintain it in for the seven minute (estimated journey time) and that’s together with the wait instances lol ….moreover, I hate that McCourt would in some way be concerned with this …can’t stand the dude, for the best way he handled our Dodgers….anyway simply my opinion ✌️
Reply: Undecided
Tony Perez, Los Angeles
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It might be an journey and add to the thrill of recreation day, like going to Philippe’s earlier than the sport. I’m not thrilled a few ton of growth there. I can also’t consider a single one who likes the concept of giving a lot as a penny to Frank McCourt.
Reply: Sure
Dan McCarrel, Diamond Bar
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Parking will not be a pleasing expertise at Dodger Stadium. I am going to 20-plus video games a yr and park in Chinatown to keep away from the effort. It’s a stroll of barely greater than a mile every manner and after the sport it’s downhill! A aspect bonus will not be paying McCourt any cash for parking. I might hate to assist something that advantages the man who tried to destroy the house group.
Reply: Undecided
Deborah Vogel, South Pasadena
Is it actually higher for the realm?
It’s repulsive to me to have a gondola rising above the folks and homes of the neighborhood who’re close to Dodger Stadium. That neighborhood has needed to endure visitors via the streets and now a gondola above them is horrible. The cons outweighs the professionals. That is one other instance of the wealthy exploiting the poor.
Reply: No
Susie Chow, Monterey Park
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I’m a resident locally and NO, I might not set foot on the gondola. Residents like me would boycott and protest the gondola if it had been constructed. This isn’t an iconic vacationer attraction or revolutionary inexperienced transit answer. That is an ill-conceived boondoggle that’s being pushed on us with a bunch of lies. If constructed, this gondola could be a monument to the exploitation and marginalization of our communities.
Moreover, what good is a seven-minute journey if you need to stand in line for an hour to board the gondola? And the place would everybody who drives to the gondola park? What good is it if the visitors is simply redirected into our neighborhoods as an alternative of into Dodger Stadium? This gondola might be a toy for a choose few. Does anybody actually imagine that the tickets will stay free, that they gained’t finally jack up costs or cost an exorbitant membership charge for folks to leap the lengthy traces on the gondola stations? Nothing about this undertaking provides up.
Reply: No
Phyllis Ling, Los Angeles
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Folks will both maintain driving to the Dodger Stadium parking heaps, or they’ll drive to Chinatown with the intention to hop on the gondola. It will flip the neighborhood of Chinatown into the Dodger Stadium parking zone, which implies Chinatown will tackle much more of the car visitors, noise, trash and public urination from beer-imbibing Dodger followers, and its residents will discover all of their road parking disappear on recreation days. In the meantime, these gondola cabins are proposed to be flying overhead (and never very excessive overhead both) each 30 seconds or so all yr lengthy? In service fewer than 100 recreation days and live performance days? At a ticket value which stays unknown?
The stakeholders of Chinatown/Olvera Road had been by no means requested if we wished this — as an alternative, we had been instructed that this was already within the works after which requested if we thought the renderings had been fairly. Folks assume that the gondola cabins will soar excessive within the sky over Los Angeles, however they’ll principally be barely 30-40 ft above the pavement and above properties in some cases. They are going to reduce down a swath of mature bushes on the L.A. State Historic Park with the intention to make room for the brand new station and the flight path. That is data you may solely entry for those who learn via the hundreds of pages of the DEIR (Draft Environmental Influence Report).
Reply: No
Tany Ling, Los Angeles
A matter of belief
Would wish to park and journey, simpler and quicker to simply drive to Dodger Stadium.
Additionally, many depart the stadium drunk or amped up, I might not wish to share a small gondola, particularly when with household.
Reply: No
Russ Randall, Santa Clarita
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My considerations concerning the gondola embrace earthquakes and energy outages. What would occur to passengers in both case? Additionally what number of properties or companies would displaced? Dodger Stadium already has a tainted historical past in that regard.
Reply: Undecided
Lisa Babilonia, Nev.
Extra growth?
I might take Metro and skip the visitors utterly. It’s the one manner I’d contemplate going to see a recreation — particularly if there are bars and eating places making it extra of an leisure vacation spot all yr. It’s effectively previous time for residents and guests to the realm to have the ability to go to main locations with no need to drive within the (world well-known!) unhealthy visitors.
Reply: Sure
David Swift, Pasadena
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The gondola could be a world-class attraction for L.A.!! Stop worrying about who could revenue. I don’t like Frank any greater than you do, however having procuring, eating, and flats close to the ballpark is sensible. Have a look at how Anaheim has created a whole condo village round their ballpark. It’s attracted hundreds of younger individuals who by no means would have thought-about Anaheim. We want extra housing. Everybody opposes city sprawl and constructing in fire-prone areas exterior town … everybody opposes constructing inside town … that’s why there may be a lot corruption for getting buildings authorized via metropolis corridor. Is it any shock we now have a housing scarcity?!!! Embrace some reasonably priced housing so a few of the stadium employees dwell close by.
Reply: Sure
Dave Schafer, Torrance ::
Parking is pricey and tough. Plus, the gondola additionally serves Cornfields Park and the eating places in that neighborhood for earlier than/after recreation enjoyable.
I additionally assist redeveloping these parking heaps into one thing way more helpful than black asphalt. It’s a disgraceful waste of land when there’s a possibility for town to dealer a win-win-win state of affairs (extra parkland, much less floor parking, centrally positioned housing, and extra engaging retailers/companies/eating places). There’s additionally an opportunity to construct a whole neighborhood from a clear slate that includes right now’s greatest practices for sustainability, walkability, and many others.
Reply: Sure
Jeff Farrington, Echo Park
